Comments on: Man shot in attempted robbery outside downtown gym

By: Jennifer Deseo

Jennifer Deseo — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:34:29 +0000

Play nice. No poking fun at each other’s screen names.

By: Brent

Brent — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:59:51 +0000

Even if it IS a gang thing, that doesn’t make it any less alarming. A gun going off aimed by Thug 1 at Thug 2 can still hit innocent bystanders 1, 2 3 and 4. That’s the danger of letting these punks continue to operate on the streets.

By: Springvale Roader

Springvale Roader — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:54:34 +0000

Last post on this topic. Hopefully Jennifer will put up a restaurant review or something similarly diverting.

Jennifer: I agree that Dogs and I won’t agree (hey, we didn’t even get into the issue of how cats are better than dogs), but like baseball teams statistics, the facts of the gun control debate are available and clear.

Dogs: I’m confident in my self-defense skills, thank you very much.

Bubba: I agree with you that there may be more to this story. It takes either true stupidity or strong motivation to try to rob someone on a busy street during rush hour. Someone is odd here.

By: Bubba

Bubba — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:40:43 +0000

There is something peculiar about this shooting. It seems an odd time and place to be mugging someone. Plus, a 26 year old male coming out of a Golds Gym isn’t what I’d define as a likely victim – unlikely to be caring much cash and wouldn’t appear vulnerable.

The other thing is the tear drop tattoo. This, almost, always signifies the person is a gang member. Yes, most gang members are criminals, but they aren’t morons.

I doubt this was a mugging and, more likely, was a gang issue.

By: DogsRule

DogsRule — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:36:13 +0000

Coldsore: Yawn. Move to Europe.

Editor’s note: Play nice. — JD (Nov 3, 2009)

By: Coldbliss

Coldbliss — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:33:41 +0000

Sooooo Dogsh*t, (You ridiculed my screen name already)

You write about “great responsibility” shown US gun owners. Switzerland has almost universal gun ownership for adult males but they have a fraction of gun crimes per capita than the US. Why is that? It seems the Swiss show more responsibility as human beings.

This nation was built on guns alright. Guns were used to kill Native Americans so white Americans can seize their land. Guns were used to shoot runaway or rebellious black slaves. Guns were used for an illegal war against Mexico in the 1840s. Guns were used by Union and Confederate soldiers in a senseless slaughter of a massive scale. Guns were used by police and federal troops against labor unions and student protesters. Guns were used by cops against unarmed people of color. Guns are used by angry young men (Columbine and VA Tech) against their innocent peers. We lead the developed world in gun crimes and overall prison incarceration rates.

Yes, guns help shaped the character of this great nation. This is an American tragedy.

By: DogsRule

DogsRule — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:26:07 +0000

Roader: same mysterious lack of facts on your end. I agree with Jennifer. The horse is dead…hope someone is around to protect Mr. Roader if similar circumstances occur…

By: Jennifer Deseo

Jennifer Deseo — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:20:22 +0000

While I appreciate the civil discourse here, I think it’s time we agree to disagree.

Not like we’re talking about the World Series here, where there’s clearly no doubt of which team is better.

Discuss.

By: Springvale Roader

Springvale Roader — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:16:13 +0000

Dogs: I did not make your point, but nice try. Your ode to patriotism might sound heroic, but you’ve no facts to support your anti-gun control arguments. Where are they? What are your sources for anything you’ve written besides, 1) a gun shop and 2) a gun range?
You’ll need something better besides assumptions and cliches and self-interested businesses to make a convincing case.

By: DogsRule

DogsRule — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:12:14 +0000

Roader: you made my point. Bad guys don’t need “easy access” to guns. They will get them anyway. I am familiar with the Brady Campaign and have no problem with enacting and enforcing sensible regulations to reduce gun violence, including regulations governing the gun industry. I disagree with your assertion on handguns. I should be ablre to conceal my carry weapon – just like the bad guys. As your “link” points out: gun control laws in this country are not weak, there are just too many loopholes allowing crimanals to possess. Finally: For those of you who are afraid of guns and gun owners, you are missing a fundamental way to connect to the historical character of those who built the United States. . . those who positively recognized “great power” and practiced “great responsibility” in all that they did . . . those who sacrificed and built this nation into what it is because of their character and experience.