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	<title>Comments on: Ike, county council clash over new Silver Spring library</title>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8438</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s all the fuss about Silver Spring getting a smaller library than Rockville. Rockville is the county seat and the library is the flagship library, containing offices for various county agencies. Rockville is clearly the more important city. Silver Spring should get something similar to the new Germantown Libary which has lots of frills. The Silver Spring libary would still be larger than the new libraries in Bethesda, Silver Spring&#039;s model city</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s all the fuss about Silver Spring getting a smaller library than Rockville. Rockville is the county seat and the library is the flagship library, containing offices for various county agencies. Rockville is clearly the more important city. Silver Spring should get something similar to the new Germantown Libary which has lots of frills. The Silver Spring libary would still be larger than the new libraries in Bethesda, Silver Spring&#8217;s model city</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Deseo</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Deseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Play nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play nice.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8240</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am proposing exactly that: retirees sell homes they cannot afford. And, yes, I&#039;m against subsidized housing, too - it&#039;s what destroyed DTSS in the first place.

There&#039;s no right in the Constitution that says that when you&#039;re 65, you get to stop working and have everyone else pay your way. There&#039;s no right in the Constitution that says that you get to live where-ever you want to at the government&#039;s expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am proposing exactly that: retirees sell homes they cannot afford. And, yes, I&#8217;m against subsidized housing, too &#8211; it&#8217;s what destroyed DTSS in the first place.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no right in the Constitution that says that when you&#8217;re 65, you get to stop working and have everyone else pay your way. There&#8217;s no right in the Constitution that says that you get to live where-ever you want to at the government&#8217;s expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodside Park Bob</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8182</link>
		<dc:creator>Woodside Park Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMZ says: &quot;If Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeowner can’t pay their property taxes, they need to sell their house and move into an apartment or another house, not stick me with the bill, because they are _living beyond their means_.&quot;    Let&#039;s carry on with that logic.  I guess DMZ wants to eliminate all subsidized housing.  No more MPDU requirements for new buildings or subdivisions, for example.  No more workforce housing subsidies.  No more Section 8 rental assistance.  Let the market prevail!  No more living beyond their means for anyone!  Or is he proposing only that retirees have to leave their homes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMZ says: &#8220;If Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeowner can’t pay their property taxes, they need to sell their house and move into an apartment or another house, not stick me with the bill, because they are _living beyond their means_.&#8221;    Let&#8217;s carry on with that logic.  I guess DMZ wants to eliminate all subsidized housing.  No more MPDU requirements for new buildings or subdivisions, for example.  No more workforce housing subsidies.  No more Section 8 rental assistance.  Let the market prevail!  No more living beyond their means for anyone!  Or is he proposing only that retirees have to leave their homes?</p>
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		<title>By: pj</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8133</link>
		<dc:creator>pj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what DMZ has stated. Also, Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeowner have probably paid off their mortgage by the time they are getting ready to retire so they have eliminated their biggest expense heading into retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what DMZ has stated. Also, Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeowner have probably paid off their mortgage by the time they are getting ready to retire so they have eliminated their biggest expense heading into retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8132</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeowner can&#039;t pay their property taxes, they need to sell their house and move into an apartment or another house, not stick me with the bill, because they are _living beyond their means_. Fact is, property taxes are a cost of home ownership just like maintenance - is the county going to start making me pay for their lawn to get mowed, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeowner can&#8217;t pay their property taxes, they need to sell their house and move into an apartment or another house, not stick me with the bill, because they are _living beyond their means_. Fact is, property taxes are a cost of home ownership just like maintenance &#8211; is the county going to start making me pay for their lawn to get mowed, too?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8121</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, you make important points about mansionization and displacement. Both are serious matters, though I consider them seperate issues from the question of whether more dense development in the Silver Spring CBD will spill over into the ESS neighborhoods.  My point was that I don&#039;t believe that development in the CBD threatens the single family residential character of the adjacent neighborhood. 

I&#039;m also a bit more optomistic about the prospects of Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeonwer who are now retired and facing rising property taxes along with rising property values. What&#039;s to say they have no retirement savings? If they&#039;re lucky they may even have one of those defined benefit pensions that are no longer offered to my generation of workers. Also, they could tap into their home equity through a reverse mortgage, or they could choose to sell their home at 10 times what they paid for it, move to a home that requires less upkeep or is in a more accomodating climate or to be closer to the grandkids or whatever, and pocket the savings.To be sure, its not an easy decision to move but it is one that many people make of their own volition and there&#039;s no injustice to it

That said, there are folks who face a rising property tax burden and don&#039;t have money saved up or cannot afford to cash in on their equity and there should be a role for a property tax circuit breaker or some other mitigation so that these residents can remain in their homes and stay aflout. I&#039;m not sure what measures are in place in Montgomery County, perhaps someone else can provide more information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, you make important points about mansionization and displacement. Both are serious matters, though I consider them seperate issues from the question of whether more dense development in the Silver Spring CBD will spill over into the ESS neighborhoods.  My point was that I don&#8217;t believe that development in the CBD threatens the single family residential character of the adjacent neighborhood. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a bit more optomistic about the prospects of Mr. and Mrs. Happy Homeonwer who are now retired and facing rising property taxes along with rising property values. What&#8217;s to say they have no retirement savings? If they&#8217;re lucky they may even have one of those defined benefit pensions that are no longer offered to my generation of workers. Also, they could tap into their home equity through a reverse mortgage, or they could choose to sell their home at 10 times what they paid for it, move to a home that requires less upkeep or is in a more accomodating climate or to be closer to the grandkids or whatever, and pocket the savings.To be sure, its not an easy decision to move but it is one that many people make of their own volition and there&#8217;s no injustice to it</p>
<p>That said, there are folks who face a rising property tax burden and don&#8217;t have money saved up or cannot afford to cash in on their equity and there should be a role for a property tax circuit breaker or some other mitigation so that these residents can remain in their homes and stay aflout. I&#8217;m not sure what measures are in place in Montgomery County, perhaps someone else can provide more information.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://silverspringpenguin.com/2008/05/13/politics-44/comment-page-1/#comment-8119</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you point out that property values have surged near Metro stops. The Chevy Chase/Bethesda area has indeed lost single-family homes. It has lost smaller ones to mansionization. Columbia Heights has experienced significant renter displacement. The old homes in Takoma Park survived -- so far -- only because of the historic district, and the additional protection of a municipality, the City of Takoma Park. We are unincorporated in Silver Spring.

Say that Mr. &amp; Ms. Happy Homeowner love their home and want to live there forever. Their incomes will probably fluctuate over time. When they reach the point of retirement, their household income would decrease. If their property values skyrocket, they may need to remain in the paid workforce -- keeping jobs away from younger workers -- just to pay their property taxes.

A progressive income tax for all our government needs would be far better than this excessive reliance on the property tax. Pumping any given piece of land for maximum property value flies in the face of community stability and middle-class homeownership. Furthermore, I don&#039;t know anyone who brags about the way the potential sale price of their home has ballooned. Instead they say &quot;I couldn&#039;t buy my own house if I were buying today.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you point out that property values have surged near Metro stops. The Chevy Chase/Bethesda area has indeed lost single-family homes. It has lost smaller ones to mansionization. Columbia Heights has experienced significant renter displacement. The old homes in Takoma Park survived &#8212; so far &#8212; only because of the historic district, and the additional protection of a municipality, the City of Takoma Park. We are unincorporated in Silver Spring.</p>
<p>Say that Mr. &amp; Ms. Happy Homeowner love their home and want to live there forever. Their incomes will probably fluctuate over time. When they reach the point of retirement, their household income would decrease. If their property values skyrocket, they may need to remain in the paid workforce &#8212; keeping jobs away from younger workers &#8212; just to pay their property taxes.</p>
<p>A progressive income tax for all our government needs would be far better than this excessive reliance on the property tax. Pumping any given piece of land for maximum property value flies in the face of community stability and middle-class homeownership. Furthermore, I don&#8217;t know anyone who brags about the way the potential sale price of their home has ballooned. Instead they say &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t buy my own house if I were buying today.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, I agree that most folks in the neighborhood, myself included, do value their homes and trees and want to continue living in them---except for the residents of a portion of Easley Street and Bonifant Street who have put their block up for sale with the hope that a developer will pay big money to demolish the homes and build a more dense development. 

I would oppose any effort to change the existing residential zoning of East Silver Spring in response to this land assemblage  project or a Purple Line stop at the future library, and my sentiments are echoed in the ESS Master Plan, which recommends that the existing land use pattern should remain essentially the same (p. 26), confirms the existing residential zoning (p 26) and recommends that the County retain the existing single-family detached character throughout most of East Silver Springas well as the existing mix and distribution of apartment uses (p 26).  

Maybe I&#039;m naive, or just optimistic by nature, but I project enduring support amongst our local officials for land use planning that encourages more dense development in Fenton Village, while respecting the transition between the central business district and adjcent single-family neighborhoods (see p. 2 of the Silver Spring CBD Sector Plan) and preserving the residential character of ESS. 

As for the spector of emininant domain being used to purchase land for private development projects, call me naive again if you&#039;d like but I don&#039;t see that happening either. A recent (and very controversial) Supreme Court decision did expand the authority of eminant domain beyond its traditional function of acquiring property for public projects (new highways, expanded fire stations, and the like). I just don&#039;t envision this happening in the neighborhood.

The DC area is replete with examples of intense development around transit stations co-existing with established residential neighborhoods. (See the Rosslyn-Balston Corridor, Bethesda, Takoma and Columbia Heights). Life may not be perfect in these neighborhoods, but nor has TOD lead to apartment projects displacing blocks of single family homes. Rather, access to amenities and property values have surged in these areas and the residents have found themselves well-housed indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, I agree that most folks in the neighborhood, myself included, do value their homes and trees and want to continue living in them&#8212;except for the residents of a portion of Easley Street and Bonifant Street who have put their block up for sale with the hope that a developer will pay big money to demolish the homes and build a more dense development. </p>
<p>I would oppose any effort to change the existing residential zoning of East Silver Spring in response to this land assemblage  project or a Purple Line stop at the future library, and my sentiments are echoed in the ESS Master Plan, which recommends that the existing land use pattern should remain essentially the same (p. 26), confirms the existing residential zoning (p 26) and recommends that the County retain the existing single-family detached character throughout most of East Silver Springas well as the existing mix and distribution of apartment uses (p 26).  </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive, or just optimistic by nature, but I project enduring support amongst our local officials for land use planning that encourages more dense development in Fenton Village, while respecting the transition between the central business district and adjcent single-family neighborhoods (see p. 2 of the Silver Spring CBD Sector Plan) and preserving the residential character of ESS. </p>
<p>As for the spector of emininant domain being used to purchase land for private development projects, call me naive again if you&#8217;d like but I don&#8217;t see that happening either. A recent (and very controversial) Supreme Court decision did expand the authority of eminant domain beyond its traditional function of acquiring property for public projects (new highways, expanded fire stations, and the like). I just don&#8217;t envision this happening in the neighborhood.</p>
<p>The DC area is replete with examples of intense development around transit stations co-existing with established residential neighborhoods. (See the Rosslyn-Balston Corridor, Bethesda, Takoma and Columbia Heights). Life may not be perfect in these neighborhoods, but nor has TOD lead to apartment projects displacing blocks of single family homes. Rather, access to amenities and property values have surged in these areas and the residents have found themselves well-housed indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even see what the point of building the new library is. Most people just don&#039;t read anymore, and it&#039;s not as if building a fancy new library is somehow going to change that. It may be a public good, but I&#039;m not entirely sure it&#039;s a wise use of funds for our cash-strapped county government.

If you wanted to encourage more people to read, you&#039;d have the county just distribute (far more convenient to use) Amazon Kindles to interested parties at a subsidized price, and then work out some sort of on-going new content deal with publishers. I bet it&#039;d be cheaper than paying for and maintaining the new library. Plus, it&#039;d allow the county to control what people read, so as to better educate them away from any possible right-wing tendencies!

(That was half a joke, and half not. I&#039;m a used book kinda-guy myself.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even see what the point of building the new library is. Most people just don&#8217;t read anymore, and it&#8217;s not as if building a fancy new library is somehow going to change that. It may be a public good, but I&#8217;m not entirely sure it&#8217;s a wise use of funds for our cash-strapped county government.</p>
<p>If you wanted to encourage more people to read, you&#8217;d have the county just distribute (far more convenient to use) Amazon Kindles to interested parties at a subsidized price, and then work out some sort of on-going new content deal with publishers. I bet it&#8217;d be cheaper than paying for and maintaining the new library. Plus, it&#8217;d allow the county to control what people read, so as to better educate them away from any possible right-wing tendencies!</p>
<p>(That was half a joke, and half not. I&#8217;m a used book kinda-guy myself.)</p>
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